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		<title>By: stuffy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey buddy,
tongues--it&#039;s a prayer language that can be used for other things as well, but it&#039;s pretty much a personal prayer language since it&#039;s to edify my own spirit.  As for what language it is, i don&#039;t know, it&#039;s unknown to me, therefore it bypasses my mind and goes straight from my spirit to God.  it&#039;s an unknown language.  unknown how?  i dunno, to me firstly.  it very well could be an angelic language considering that would also be an unknown language, mine doesn&#039;t sound angelic though, but i&#039;m not one to rule it out.  i have heard stories about people praying in tongues like at an altar call or walking on a sidewalk and people passing by would stop them and tell them that they were speaking in their native language or something.  so it&#039;s still here for prayer and reaching out, often unintentionally.  to really understand what paul meant by unknown languages, look up the original greek.  
prophecy--yes there are people who hold the official office of prophet.  that means they&#039;re really really good at listening to God and telling people what he says.  as for me prophesying or a &quot;lay&quot; person, it can be faked or come from the desires of my heart, but i would say most of the time it doesn&#039;t.  when first starting out it&#039;s hard to distinguish between me and God saying stuff, but practice within my group of friends/church people has helped me be able to discern God&#039;s voice.  Not to mention, a prophetic word (a word spoken to edify a person) is often varified by a word of knowledge (which is when God tells me something about your past or present that i had no way of knowing).  So, word of knowledge builds faith, then you&#039;re more accepting in faith to recieve the prophetic word, which speaks to your future, your destiny, who God really sees you as, who God made you to be.  

all this can probably be really confusing and unfortunately i don&#039;t know verses to back it up, but this is what i know and this is what i experience.

group think?  it&#039;s too real for that.  not to mention it&#039;s not centrally located in charismatic churches.  it has hit all denominations, even southern baptists and catholicism though i&#039;m sure they wouldn&#039;t want to admit it.  

to deny these two gifts specifically would also deny the Holy spirit of other gifts.  or rather denying yourself from recieving the gifts.  but yes, if is against scripture it&#039;s wrong.  

just to throw this out there, my youth minister says this a lot.  &quot;You can teach and learn out off the old testiment law, but don&#039;t you dare live by it.&quot;  we&#039;re christians under christian law/promises, not hebrew law.  for more refer to rom. 7-8.  good times my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey buddy,<br />
tongues&#8211;it&#8217;s a prayer language that can be used for other things as well, but it&#8217;s pretty much a personal prayer language since it&#8217;s to edify my own spirit.  As for what language it is, i don&#8217;t know, it&#8217;s unknown to me, therefore it bypasses my mind and goes straight from my spirit to God.  it&#8217;s an unknown language.  unknown how?  i dunno, to me firstly.  it very well could be an angelic language considering that would also be an unknown language, mine doesn&#8217;t sound angelic though, but i&#8217;m not one to rule it out.  i have heard stories about people praying in tongues like at an altar call or walking on a sidewalk and people passing by would stop them and tell them that they were speaking in their native language or something.  so it&#8217;s still here for prayer and reaching out, often unintentionally.  to really understand what paul meant by unknown languages, look up the original greek.<br />
prophecy&#8211;yes there are people who hold the official office of prophet.  that means they&#8217;re really really good at listening to God and telling people what he says.  as for me prophesying or a &#8220;lay&#8221; person, it can be faked or come from the desires of my heart, but i would say most of the time it doesn&#8217;t.  when first starting out it&#8217;s hard to distinguish between me and God saying stuff, but practice within my group of friends/church people has helped me be able to discern God&#8217;s voice.  Not to mention, a prophetic word (a word spoken to edify a person) is often varified by a word of knowledge (which is when God tells me something about your past or present that i had no way of knowing).  So, word of knowledge builds faith, then you&#8217;re more accepting in faith to recieve the prophetic word, which speaks to your future, your destiny, who God really sees you as, who God made you to be.  </p>
<p>all this can probably be really confusing and unfortunately i don&#8217;t know verses to back it up, but this is what i know and this is what i experience.</p>
<p>group think?  it&#8217;s too real for that.  not to mention it&#8217;s not centrally located in charismatic churches.  it has hit all denominations, even southern baptists and catholicism though i&#8217;m sure they wouldn&#8217;t want to admit it.  </p>
<p>to deny these two gifts specifically would also deny the Holy spirit of other gifts.  or rather denying yourself from recieving the gifts.  but yes, if is against scripture it&#8217;s wrong.  </p>
<p>just to throw this out there, my youth minister says this a lot.  &#8220;You can teach and learn out off the old testiment law, but don&#8217;t you dare live by it.&#8221;  we&#8217;re christians under christian law/promises, not hebrew law.  for more refer to rom. 7-8.  good times my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: hannah p</title>
		<link>http://ksmith.in/inmediasres/2005/01/25/on-first-corinthians/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator>hannah p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kev. glad to see you are taking a good look from all sides at this issue. im just going to throw a few comments your way....off the top of my head. (that was a warning of sorts). my prayer language i consider to be vital to my spiritual walk, not salvation, and i have received words i felt were from God for others, so you can see where my bias lies. to reply to the group think comment...immediately i think about the dare i say millions of christians all over the world who pray in a prayer language. i have seen this. i assure you the multiple millions of christians in china consider this a foundational and vital part of their walks with God. we have to remember to think globally if we talk about groups of people the US doesnt represent at all christianity. i dont even have my bible hear to jump into those topics but i thought i would through some ideas out there from someone living outside the US. hopefully i can be a part of this discussion later!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kev. glad to see you are taking a good look from all sides at this issue. im just going to throw a few comments your way&#8230;.off the top of my head. (that was a warning of sorts). my prayer language i consider to be vital to my spiritual walk, not salvation, and i have received words i felt were from God for others, so you can see where my bias lies. to reply to the group think comment&#8230;immediately i think about the dare i say millions of christians all over the world who pray in a prayer language. i have seen this. i assure you the multiple millions of christians in china consider this a foundational and vital part of their walks with God. we have to remember to think globally if we talk about groups of people the US doesnt represent at all christianity. i dont even have my bible hear to jump into those topics but i thought i would through some ideas out there from someone living outside the US. hopefully i can be a part of this discussion later!</p>
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